Nov 14 2008

The Argob: Proof found of Giants (Rephaim) - Bashan, the land of Sacred Romance

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Deuteronomy 3:1, 4 [show/hide]Deuteronomy 3:1 The Defeat of King Og [3:1]"Then we turned and went up the way to Bashan. And Og the king of Bashan came out against us, he and all his people, to battle at Edrei. (ESV)
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Then we turned, and went up the way of Bashan: and Og the King of Bashan came out against us, he and all his people, to battle at Edrei.
And we took all the cities at that time, there was not a city which we took not from them, threescore cities, all the region of Argob, the kingdom of Og in Bashan.

Og was a giant, one of the Rephaim, a man who had a bedstead 18 ft. l 4 in. wide [v11]. Some tribes were made up of many giants; but it appears that the Rephaim branch was about exterminated.

The Argob: The name of a region east of Jordan, part of the kingdom of Og [v4; Ki.4:13].

It was in Bashan, called the land of SACRED ROMANCE, which of course, suggest the marriages of sons of God with daughters of men, as taught in Scripture.

The giants produced by such union [after the flood] were a constant terror to Israel from the Exodus to the time of David.

The Argob, and in fact, all of Bashan was occupied by giants in ancient times is evident from the massive structure of the cities, many remains of which still exist.

Travellers say that the houses are huge blocks of basalt [dark marble], a particular feature being the almost absence of wood.

Doors, staircases, galleries, roofs and other parts of buildings are made of marble. The houses of Bashan truly show evidence of not being ordinary ones.

Some of the walls are 5 to 8 feet thick and built of large squared blocks. Roof slabs of basalt are as much as 6 inches thick while some ceilings are 20 to 30 feet high and doors are 10 feet or more high.
- see page 62 giants: Dake A.R.B.
- Dake A.R.B. : Page 210.

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Oct 19 2008

The Last of the Mighty Races of Giants

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1 Chronicles 20:4 [show/hide]1 Chronicles 20:4 Philistine Giants Killed [4]And after this there arose war with the Philistines at Gezer. Then Sibbecai the Hushathite struck down Sippai, who was one of the descendants of the giants, and the Philistines were subdued. (ESV)
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And it came to pass after this, that there arose war at Gezer with the Philistines; at which time Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Sippai, that was of the children of the giant: and they were subdued.

The last 5 giants slain:

1. Sippai [v 4]. Called Saph [2 Sam. 21:18 [show/hide]2 Samuel 21:18 [18]After this there was again war with the Philistines at Gob. Then Sibbecai the Hushathite struck down Saph, who was one of the descendants of the giants. (ESV)
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2. Lahmi, brother of Goliath [v 5; 2 Sam. 21:19 [show/hide]2 Samuel 21:19 [19]And there was again war with the Philistines at Gob, and Elhanan the son of Jaare-oregim, the Bethlehemite, struck down Goliath the Gittite, the shaft of whose spear was like a weaver's beam. (ESV)
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3. The Giant with 6 fingers and 6 toes on each hand and foot [v 6-8; 2 Sam. 21:20-22 [show/hide]2 Samuel 21:20-22 [20]And there was again war at Gath, where there was a man of great stature, who had six fingers on each hand, and six toes on each foot, twenty-four in number, and he also was descended from the giants. [21]And when he taunted Israel, Jonathan the son of Shimei, David's brother, struck him down. [22]These four were descended from the giants in Gath, and they fell by the hand of David and by the hand of his servants. (ESV)
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4. Ishbi-benob [2 Sam. 21:16-17 [show/hide]2 Samuel 21:16-17 [16]And Ishbi-benob, one of the descendants of the giants, whose spear weighed three hundred shekels of bronze, and who was armed with a new sword, thought to kill David. [17]But Abishai the son of Zeruiah came to his aid and attacked the Philistine and killed him. Then David's men swore to him, "You shall no longer go out with us to battle, lest you quench the lamp of Israel." (ESV)
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5. Goliath [1 Sam. 21:16-17 [show/hide]ERROR: No passage found for your query.
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These 5 giants were brothers. In 2 Samuel 21:22 [show/hide]2 Samuel 21:22 [22]These four were descended from the giants in Gath, and they fell by the hand of David and by the hand of his servants. (ESV)
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it states that these 4 were brothers; and 21:19 makes it clear that they were brothers of Goliath, who made up the 5.

From v 5 here we also learn that Lahmi was the brother of Goliath.

These were the last of the mighty races of giants who were the offspring of fallen angels and women in Satan’s efforts to do away with pure Adamite stock so that the Seed of the woman might not come into the world to redeem Adam’s race.
- Dake A.R. Bible: page 441

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Oct 09 2008

Giants and Sons of God (Part 2)

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Genesis 6:4 [show/hide]Genesis 6:4 [4]The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown. (ESV)
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There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

5. Not only is it unscriptural but unhistorical to teach that giants came from the union of ordinary men and women. The great question has been: WHERE DID THE GIANTS GET THEIR START? Genesis 6:4 [show/hide]Genesis 6:4 [4]The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown. (ESV)
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makes it clear – from the union of the sons of God and daughters of men. If the sons of God were ordinary men in the same sense that the daughters of men were ordinary women, THEN we must conclude 4 things:

1] That godly women have the power to produce such monsters if married to godly men, OR,

2] That godly men have the power to produce giants when married to ungodly women.

3] That a mixture of godliness and wickedness produces giants.

4] That extreme wickedness on the part of either parent will produce giant offspring. All 4 conclusions are wrong however, as proved every day by the marriages of unconverted persons with the converted and the producing of offspring through the union of a wicked parent and a godly one. Thus, the theory that giants came from the marriage of Seth’s sons with Cain’s daughters is disproved.

6. The sons of God could not have been the sons of Seth or other godly men for the following 7 reasons:

[1] There were no men godly enough to be saved during the Antediluvian Age except

ABEL [Gen. 4:4 [show/hide]Genesis 4:4 [4]and Abel also brought of the firstborn of his flock and of their fat portions. And the LORD had regard for Abel and his offering, (ESV)
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; Heb. 11:4 [show/hide]Hebrews 11:4 [4]By faith Abel offered to God a more acceptable sacrifice than Cain, through which he was commended as righteous, God commending him by accepting his gifts. And through his faith, though he died, he still speaks. (ESV)
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],

ENOCH [5:21-24; Heb. 11:5 [show/hide]Hebrews 11:5 [5]By faith Enoch was taken up so that he should not see death, and he was not found, because God had taken him. Now before he was taken he was commended as having pleased God. (ESV)
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],

and NOAH [6:8; 7:1; Heb. 11:7 [show/hide]Hebrews 11:7 [7]By faith Noah, being warned by God concerning events as yet unseen, in reverent fear constructed an ark for the saving of his household. By this he condemned the world and became an heir of the righteousness that comes by faith. (ESV)
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],

as far as Scripture records are concerned. Shall we conclude that these 3 men were the sons of God who married the daughter of Cain and produced races of giants in the earth IN THOSE DAYS before the flood [6:4]? We have no record of any such marriage or offspring of Abel before he was murdered. Regarding Enoch, are we to believe that Methuselah and his other children were the giants? Are we to believe that Noah’s 3 sons, Shem, Ham and Japheth were giants? If so, where is our authority for this? Had this been true, there would have been nothing on earth after the flood but giants born of Noah’s giant sons, for by his children the whole earth was then replenished [10:1-32]. That would cause another unsolved mystery – how giants became ordinary sized men again.

[2] The time of the marriages of the sons of God disproves the theory that they were the sons of Seth. Marriages of Seth’s sons could not have taken place during the first 325 years, for he had only one son of marriageable age up to that time [5;1-8] and he [ENOS] was not godly. See note f, Gen. 4:26 [show/hide]Genesis 4:26 [26]To Seth also a son was born, and he called his name Enosh. At that time people began to call upon the name of the LORD. (ESV)
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. To say there were no such marriages before Enos would contradict Gen. 6:1-2 [show/hide]Genesis 6:1-2 Increasing Corruption on Earth [6:1]When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, [2]the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. (ESV)
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which shows that sons of God married daughters of men when such daughters were not born in the first 325 years? If so, then where did Cain, Seth and others get their wives? Furthermore, such marriages between godly sons and ungodly daughters could not have been during the last 600 years before the flood, because Noah was the only son of God by righteousness during this time [Gen. 6:8-9 [show/hide]Genesis 6:8-9 [8]But Noah found favor in the eyes of the LORD. Noah and the Flood [9]These are the generations of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his generation. Noah walked with God. (ESV)
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; 7:1; 2 Pet. 2:4-5 [show/hide]2 Peter 2:4-5 [4]For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to chains of gloomy darkness to be kept until the judgment; [5]if he did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a herald of righteousness, with seven others, when he brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly; (ESV)
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]. His sons were preserved in the ark because of being pure Adamite stock and not because of personal righteousness. The foregoing facts then, would limit these marriages to the 731 yeaars between the first 325 years and the last 600 of the Antediluvian Age; whereas, sonsof God actually married daughters of men throughout the entire 1,656 years of that age. Genesis 6:1-2 [show/hide]Genesis 6:1-2 Increasing Corruption on Earth [6:1]When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, [2]the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. (ESV)
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makes it clear that this happened “when men began to multiply on the face of the earth.”

[3] Genesis 6:4 [show/hide]Genesis 6:4 [4]The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown. (ESV)
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teaches that there were giants on the earth IN THOSE DAYS [before the flood] and also AFTER THAT [after those days which were before the flood] as a result of the sons of God marrying the daughters of men. If, as is taught, the sons of God were the sons of Seth, we can account for the AFTER THAT [after the flood], for the line of Seth was continued through Noah. But, with the daughters of Cain [supposed to be the daughters of men], the story is different. Cain’s line perished in the flood, both men and women, which means there were no daughters of Cain after the flood, for sons of God to marry.

[4] The Bible gives us no reason to believe that the statement “the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair” should be limited to Cain’s daughters. Other families had daughters too, thousands of families which made up the many branches of the race both BEFORE and AFTER the flood. These were DAUGHTERS OF MEN, too. In the 1,656 years before the flood [which is the period in which Seth and Cain lived], there must have been from 150,000,000 to 500,000,000 people. It is unbelievable that so many as half of these were godly and half ungodly; and we know that they were not limited to two lines – the line of Seth and the line of Cain. Regarding Seth’s daughter we have reason to believe that they were as FAIR as the daughters of Cain – beautiful enough to attract men as husbands for themselves. The line of Seth alone survived the flood, so we know this is true. Genesis 6:1-2 [show/hide]Genesis 6:1-2 Increasing Corruption on Earth [6:1]When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, [2]the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. (ESV)
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therefore, cannot be said to refer only to the daughters of Cain; and the term DAUGHTERS OF MEN cannot be limited to mean only the daughters of Cain.

[5] The very expression, SONS OF GOD and DAUGHTERS OF MEN, indicate two different kinds – one the product of man. Seth was not God, so why call the sons of God the sons of Seth?

[6] It is a matter of record that Seth’s children were as ungodly as Cain’s. The first-born even started idolatry, as proved in note f, Gen. 4:26 [show/hide]Genesis 4:26 [26]To Seth also a son was born, and he called his name Enosh. At that time people began to call upon the name of the LORD. (ESV)
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.

[7] With the exception of Noah and his family ALL FLESH had CORRUPTED HIS WAY upon the earth, before the flood [Gen. 6:12 [show/hide]Genesis 6:12 [12]And God saw the earth, and behold, it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted their way on the earth. (ESV)
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], which means the entire race [besides Noah’s family] had become a mixture of fallen angels and men, or giants. Only Noah and his family had preserved their pedigree pure from Adam; and this is really why they were saved in the Ark. They were the only ones capable of giving the race a new, clean start after the flood. It is said of Noah that he was a just man and PERFECT in his generation [Gen. 6:9 [show/hide]Genesis 6:9 Noah and the Flood [9]These are the generations of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his generation. Noah walked with God. (ESV)
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]. The word for ‘perfect’ in the Hebrew is ‘tamim’, which means ‘without blemish’. It is the technical word for bodily perfection, and not moral perfection. Hence it is used of the sacrificial animals of the O.T. which had to be of pure stock and WITHOUT BLEMISH [Ex. 12:5 [show/hide]Exodus 12:5 [5]Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male a year old. You may take it from the sheep or from the goats, (ESV)
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; 29:1; Lev. 1:3 [show/hide]Leviticus 1:3 [3]"If his offering is a burnt offering from the herd, he shall offer a male without blemish. He shall bring it to the entrance of the tent of meeting, that he may be accepted before the LORD. (ESV)
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; 3:1-6; 4:3, 23-32; 5:15-18; 6:6; 9:2-3; Ezek. 43:22-25; 45:18-23]; WITHOUT SPOT [Numb. 19:2; 28:3-11; 29:17, 26]; and UNDEFILED [Ps. 119:1 [show/hide]Psalm 119:1 Your Word Is a Lamp to My Feet Aleph [119:1] Blessed are those whose way is blameless, who walk in the law of the LORD!
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]. The use of this word in connection with Noah means that he and his sons were the only pure Adamites left, and for such purity they [regardless of the sons’ position in personal holiness] were all preserved in the ark.
- Dake Annotated Reference Bible: page 62-63.

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Oct 09 2008

Giants and Sons of God (Part 1)

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Genesis 6:4 [show/hide]Genesis 6:4 [4]The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown. (ESV)
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There were giants in the earth in those days: and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

PROOFS GIANTS WERE SONS OF ANGELS:

1. The fact that giants or beings of abnormal size in body, have lived on earth is one of the most clearly stated truths in Scripture. The Hebrew ‘nephilim’ from ‘nephil’ means giant, bully, or tyrant [Gen. 6:4 [show/hide]Genesis 6:4 [4]The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown. (ESV)
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; Num. 13:33 [show/hide]Numbers 13:33 [33]And there we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak, who come from the Nephilim), and we seemed to ourselves like grasshoppers, and so we seemed to them." (ESV)
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]. That they were abnormal in bodily size is clear from the fact that men or Israel were ‘as grasshoppers’ in size compared to them [Num. 13:33 [show/hide]Numbers 13:33 [33]And there we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak, who come from the Nephilim), and we seemed to ourselves like grasshoppers, and so we seemed to them." (ESV)
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]. The Hebrew ‘gibbor’ is also translated ‘giant’, meaning powerful, giant, mighty, or strong man [Num. 13:33 [show/hide]Numbers 13:33 [33]And there we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak, who come from the Nephilim), and we seemed to ourselves like grasshoppers, and so we seemed to them." (ESV)
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; Job 16:14 [show/hide]Job 16:14 [14]He breaks me with breach upon breach; he runs upon me like a warrior.
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]. To say that these original words refer to degree of wickedness instead of size in body, is a mistake.

The Anakims were a people great and tall in body [Dt. 1:28; 2:10-11, 21; 9:2; Josh. 11:21-22 [show/hide]Joshua 11:21-22 [21]And Joshua came at that time and cut off the Anakim from the hill country, from Hebron, from Debir, from Anab, and from all the hill country of Judah, and from all the hill country of Israel. Joshua devoted them to destruction with their cities. [22]There was none of the Anakim left in the land of the people of Israel. Only in Gaza, in Gath, and in Ashdod did some remain. (ESV)
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; 14:12-14]. Anak himself was of giants and if he and all Anakims were so big, we can be assured the other giants were also [Numb. 13:22, 33]. The land of Ammon was a land of giants, for giants dwelled there in old time [Dt. 2:19-20]. The ‘Emims’ were also ‘great, many and tall’ as the Anakims [Dt. 2:10-11]. ‘Zamzummims’ were called giants, a people ‘great, many, and tall’ as the Anakims. They dwelled in the land of Ammon from of old [Dt. 2:19-21]. Og, king of Bashan, is described as a giant whose bedstead was of iron and about 18 ½ ft. long and 8 ft. 4 in. wide. T his is not a measurement of wickedness, but of a material bed for a giant body measuring not too far from 18 ft. tall [Dt. 3:11; Josh. 12:4 [show/hide]Joshua 12:4 [4]and Og king of Bashan, one of the remnant of the Rephaim, who lived at Ashtaroth and at Edrei (ESV)
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; 13:12]. Bashan is called the land of the giants [Dt. 3;13].

A valley of the giants is mentioned in Josh. 15:8 [show/hide]Joshua 15:8 [8]Then the boundary goes up by the Valley of the Son of Hinnom at the southern shoulder of the Jebusite (that is, Jerusalem). And the boundary goes up to the top of the mountain that lies over against the Valley of Hinnom, on the west, at the northern end of the Valley of Rephaim. (ESV)
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; 18:16. This is the same as the valley of Rephaim, the name of another branch of the giant races so often mentioned in Scripture [Gen. 14:5 [show/hide]Genesis 14:5 [5]In the fourteenth year Chedorlaomer and the kings who were with him came and defeated the Rephaim in Ashteroth-karnaim, the Zuzim in Ham, the Emim in Shaveh-kiriathaim, (ESV)
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; 15:20; 2 Sam. 5:18, 22 [show/hide]2 Samuel 5:18 [18]Now the Philistines had come and spread out in the Valley of Rephaim. (ESV)
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; 23:13; 1 Chron. 11:15 [show/hide]1 Chronicles 11:15 [15]Three of the thirty chief men went down to the rock to David at the cave of Adullam, when the army of Philistines was encamped in the Valley of Rephaim. (ESV)
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; 14:9; Isa. 17:5 [show/hide]Isaiah 17:5 [5]And it shall be as when the reaper gathers standing grain and his arm harvests the ears, and as when one gleans the ears of grain in the Valley of Rephaim.
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]. The Rephaims were well known giants, but unfortunately, instead of retaining their proper name in Scripture the translators translated it ‘dead’ [Job 26:5 [show/hide]Job 26:5 [5]The dead tremble under the waters and their inhabitants.
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; Ps. 88:10 [show/hide]Psalm 88:10 [10]Do you work wonders for the dead? Do the departed rise up to praise you? Selah
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; Pr. 2:18 [show/hide]Proverbs 2:18 [18]for her house sinks down to death, and her paths to the departed;
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; 9:18; 21:16; Isa. 14:8 [show/hide]Isaiah 14:8 [8]The cypresses rejoice at you, the cedars of Lebanon, saying, 'Since you were laid low, no woodcutter comes up against us.'
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26:19]: and ‘deceased’ [Isa. 26:14 [show/hide]Isaiah 26:14 [14]They are dead, they will not live; they are shades, they will not arise; to that end you have visited them with destruction and wiped out all remembrance of them.
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]. The word should have been retained as a proper name in all these places, as it is 10 times otherwise. See notes on these passages which prove giant bodies are referred to instead of great wickedness.

Rephaim is translated ‘giant’ [2 Sam. 21:16, 18, 20, 22 [show/hide]2 Samuel 21:16 [16]And Ishbi-benob, one of the descendants of the giants, whose spear weighed three hundred shekels of bronze, and who was armed with a new sword, thought to kill David. (ESV)
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; 1Chron. 20:4, 6, 8 [show/hide]ERROR: No passage found for your query.
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] and ‘giants’ [Dt. 2:11, 20; 3:11, 13; Josh. 12:4 [show/hide]Joshua 12:4 [4]and Og king of Bashan, one of the remnant of the Rephaim, who lived at Ashtaroth and at Edrei (ESV)
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; 13:12; 15:8; 18:16]. The p h r a s e ‘remnant of the giants’ in Dt. 3:11; Josh. 12:4 [show/hide]Joshua 12:4 [4]and Og king of Bashan, one of the remnant of the Rephaim, who lived at Ashtaroth and at Edrei (ESV)
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; 13:12 should be ‘remnant of the Rephaims, for there were many nations of giants other than the Rephaims who filled the whole country trying to contest God’s claim on the promised land. They are listed as: Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaims, Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites, Jebusites, Hivites, Anakims, Emims, Horims, Avims, Zamummims, Caphtorims, and Nephilim [Gen. 6:4 [show/hide]Genesis 6:4 [4]The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown. (ESV)
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; 14:5-6; 15:19-21; Ex. 3:8, 17 [show/hide]Exodus 3:8 [8]and I have come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians and to bring them up out of that land to a good and broad land, a land flowing with milk and honey, to the place of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Amorites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites. (ESV)
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; 23:23; Dt. 2:10-12, 20-23; 3:11-13; 7:1; 20:17; Josh. 12:4-8 [show/hide]Joshua 12:4-8 [4]and Og king of Bashan, one of the remnant of the Rephaim, who lived at Ashtaroth and at Edrei [5]and ruled over Mount Hermon and Salecah and all Bashan to the boundary of the Geshurites and the Maacathites, and over half of Gilead to the boundary of Sihon king of Heshbon. [6]Moses, the servant of the LORD, and the people of Israel defeated them. And Moses the servant of the LORD gave their land for a possession to the Reubenites and the Gadites and the half-tribe of Manasseh. Kings Defeated by Joshua [7]And these are the kings of the land whom Joshua and the people of Israel defeated on the west side of the Jordan, from Baal-gad in the Valley of Lebanon to Mount Halak, that rises toward Seir (and Joshua gave their land to the tribes of Israel as a possession according to their allotments, [8]in the hill country, in the lowland, in the Arabah, in the slopes, in the wilderness, and in the Negeb, the land of the Hittites, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites): (ESV)
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; 13:3; 15:8; 17:15; 18:16]. Og was of the remnant of Rephaims, not the remnant of all other giant nations [Dt. 3:11; Josh. 12:4 [show/hide]Joshua 12:4 [4]and Og king of Bashan, one of the remnant of the Rephaim, who lived at Ashtaroth and at Edrei (ESV)
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; 13:12.

All these giant nations came from a union of the sons of God [fallen angels] and daughter of men after the flood. Beings of great stature, some of them even had 6 fingers on each hand and 6 toes on each foot and carried spears weighing from 10-25 lbs. [2 Sam. 21:16-22 [show/hide]2 Samuel 21:16-22 [16]And Ishbi-benob, one of the descendants of the giants, whose spear weighed three hundred shekels of bronze, and who was armed with a new sword, thought to kill David. [17]But Abishai the son of Zeruiah came to his aid and attacked the Philistine and killed him. Then David's men swore to him, "You shall no longer go out with us to battle, lest you quench the lamp of Israel." [18]After this there was again war with the Philistines at Gob. Then Sibbecai the Hushathite struck down Saph, who was one of the descendants of the giants. [19]And there was again war with the Philistines at Gob, and Elhanan the son of Jaare-oregim, the Bethlehemite, struck down Goliath the Gittite, the shaft of whose spear was like a weaver's beam. [20]And there was again war at Gath, where there was a man of great stature, who had six fingers on each hand, and six toes on each foot, twenty-four in number, and he also was descended from the giants. [21]And when he taunted Israel, Jonathan the son of Shimei, David's brother, struck him down. [22]These four were descended from the giants in Gath, and they fell by the hand of David and by the hand of his servants. (ESV)
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; 1 Chr. 20:4-8 [show/hide]1 Chronicles 20:4-8 Philistine Giants Killed [4]And after this there arose war with the Philistines at Gezer. Then Sibbecai the Hushathite struck down Sippai, who was one of the descendants of the giants, and the Philistines were subdued. [5]And there was again war with the Philistines, and Elhanan the son of Jair struck down Lahmi the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the shaft of whose spear was like a weaver's beam. [6]And there was again war at Gath, where there was a man of great stature, who had six fingers on each hand and six toes on each foot, twenty-four in number, and he also was descended from the giants. [7]And when he taunted Israel, Jonathan the son of Shimea, David's brother, struck him down. [8]These were descended from the giants in Gath, and they fell by the hand of David and by the hand of his servants. (ESV)
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]. Goliath whom David slew wore a coat of armour weighing 196 lbs. and was about 13 ft. tall [1 Sam. 17:4-6 [show/hide]1 Samuel 17:4-6 [4]And there came out from the camp of the Philistines a champion named Goliath of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span. [5]He had a helmet of bronze on his head, and he was armed with a coat of mail, and the weight of the coat was five thousand shekels of bronze. [6]And he had bronze armor on his legs, and a javelin of bronze slung between his shoulders. (ESV)
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]. It is entirely possible that the pyramids of Egypt, the giant cities of Bashan and other huge monuments of construction will remain an unsolved mystery until they are accepted as the result of labor and skill by fallen-angel fathers.

The revelations we have of giants, in Scripture gives us a true picture of what Greek mythology tries in vain to give. Ours is an accurate account because divinely inspired. Mythology is the outgrowth of traditions, memories, and legends telling of the acts of the supernatural fathers and their giant off-spring – the perverseness and corruption in transmission of actual facts concerning these mighty beings. The fact that giants were partly of supernatural origin made it easy for men to regard them as gods.

2. The fact that Rephaim have no resurrection [Isa. 26:14 [show/hide]Isaiah 26:14 [14]They are dead, they will not live; they are shades, they will not arise; to that end you have visited them with destruction and wiped out all remembrance of them.
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] proves the reality of giants and that they were not ordinary men. All ordinary men are to be resurred [Jn. 5:28-29 [show/hide]John 5:28-29 [28]Do not marvel at this, for an hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice [29]and come out, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment. (ESV)
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]; therefore, giants must be a different class from pure Adamites. Isaiah makes it clear that ‘the dead’ [Hebrew, Rephaim] are now in hell [Isa. 14:9 [show/hide]Isaiah 14:9 [9]Sheol beneath is stirred up to meet you when you come; it rouses the shades to greet you, all who were leaders of the earth; it raises from their thrones all who were kings of the nations.
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]. Solomon confirms the same in Pr. 2:18 [show/hide]Proverbs 2:18 [18]for her house sinks down to death, and her paths to the departed;
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; 9:18; 21:16 where the word ‘dead’ is ‘Rephaim’ in the Hebrew Bible. See notes Isa. 26:12, 19 [show/hide]Isaiah 26:12 [12]O LORD, you will ordain peace for us, for you have indeed done for us all our works.
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3. The fact that giants came only from unions of sons of God and daughters of men proves that their fathers were not ordinary men of the Adamite stock. No such monstrosities have been nor can be produced from a union of any ordinary men and woman, regardless of how righteous the father is or how wicked the mother is. Many converted men who are ‘sons of God in the sense of adoption and righteousness through Christ’, have been married to unconverted women, and no such offspring the size of Bible giants has ever resulted from these unions. If, as some teach, giants were born of such unions why do not such marriages produce that kind of offspring today? Why did this happen in every case then and in no case today?

4. God’s law of reproduction from the beginning has been ‘everything after his own kind’. It was not possible then, that giants could be produced by men and women [Gen. 1:11-12, 21, 24-25 [show/hide]Genesis 1:11-12 [11]And God said, "Let the earth sprout vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind, on the earth." And it was so. [12]The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed according to their own kinds, and trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. (ESV)
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; 8:19] of ordinary size. It took the supernatural element, the purpose and power of Satan and his angels to make offspring of such extra size within the human species. After the variation of the species, which had to do with size only, and when giants had come into being, they then produced others of like size instead of ordinary sized men [Num. 13:33 [show/hide]Numbers 13:33 [33]And there we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak, who come from the Nephilim), and we seemed to ourselves like grasshoppers, and so we seemed to them." (ESV)
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; 2 Sam. 21:16, 18, 20, 22 [show/hide]2 Samuel 21:16 [16]And Ishbi-benob, one of the descendants of the giants, whose spear weighed three hundred shekels of bronze, and who was armed with a new sword, thought to kill David. (ESV)
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; 1 Chr. 20:4-8 [show/hide]1 Chronicles 20:4-8 Philistine Giants Killed [4]And after this there arose war with the Philistines at Gezer. Then Sibbecai the Hushathite struck down Sippai, who was one of the descendants of the giants, and the Philistines were subdued. [5]And there was again war with the Philistines, and Elhanan the son of Jair struck down Lahmi the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the shaft of whose spear was like a weaver's beam. [6]And there was again war at Gath, where there was a man of great stature, who had six fingers on each hand and six toes on each foot, twenty-four in number, and he also was descended from the giants. [7]And when he taunted Israel, Jonathan the son of Shimea, David's brother, struck him down. [8]These were descended from the giants in Gath, and they fell by the hand of David and by the hand of his servants. (ESV)
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5. NO. 5 – PART TWO CONTINUED.
- Dake Annotated Reference Bible: page 62.

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Oct 09 2008

Sons of God: Giants after the Flood

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Sons of God:
Genesis 6:2 [show/hide]Genesis 6:2 [2]the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. (ESV)
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That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Seth did not have a son until 235 years after creation; and his son did not have a son until 325 years after creation [Genesis 5:3, 6, 9 [show/hide]Genesis 5:3 [3]When Adam had lived 130 years, he fathered a son in his own likeness, after his image, and named him Seth. (ESV)
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Where did these sons come from? They could not have been sons of Seth, for these marriages took place when men began to multiply – in the very beginning of the race before Seth had sons of marriageable age.

The term ‘sons of God’ proves that they were the product of God, not of Seth. They were the fallen angels of 1 Peter 3:19 [show/hide]1 Peter 3:19 [19]in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison, (ESV)
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; 2 Peter 2:4 [show/hide]2 Peter 2:4 [4]For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to chains of gloomy darkness to be kept until the judgment; (ESV)
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; Jude 6-7 [show/hide]Jude 1:6-7 [6]And the angels who did not stay within their own position of authority, but left their proper dwelling, he has kept in eternal chains under gloomy darkness until the judgment of the great day-- [7]just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire. (ESV)
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See also the Septuagint; Josephus, p. 36; Ante-Nicene Fathers, Vol. V111, P. 273; and ‘Giants and sons of God’ p. 62 Dake.

Giants after the Flood:
Genesis 6:4 [show/hide]Genesis 6:4 [4]The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown. (ESV)
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There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Also after that, after those days before the flood, i.e., after the flood, the sons of God again married the daughters of men and produced a second race of giants in the earth who occupied the land of Canaan in advance of Abraham.

The purpose here was the same as before the flood – to corrupt the race and thereby make it impossible for the pure ‘seed of the woman’ to come as predicted. See ‘Giants and Sons of God’ page 62 Dake.

Marriage of sons of God:
Genesis 6:4 [show/hide]Genesis 6:4 [4]The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown. (ESV)
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When the sons of God married the daughters of men, as before the flood, giants were again born to them. This definitely answers the question regarding where the giants ‘before’ and ‘after’ the flood came from [Gen. 6:1-4 [show/hide]Genesis 6:1-4 Increasing Corruption on Earth [6:1]When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, [2]the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. [3]Then the LORD said, "My Spirit shall not abide in man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years." [4]The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown. (ESV)
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6 Outstanding facts in Genesis 6:4 [show/hide]Genesis 6:4 [4]The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown. (ESV)
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1. There were two eruptions of angels
2. Two times the fallen angels married earthly women
3. Both times the angels became fathers of children born by the women
4. All children so born, were giants
5. One of the times this wickedness took place was before Noah’s flood
6. The other time was after Noah’s flood.
- Dake Annotated Reference Bible: page 14

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